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Saturday, April 4, 2009

Shipbroker trainee positions

Hi

Quite a few of you have asked about ship broker trainee positions. If you have done your research you will see that the pure shipbroking firms do on occassion offer cadetship type opportunities for aspiring shipbrokers. Most of these are offered out of London or greater Europe. If you come from these areas then this is all well and good but if you are from other parts of the world will you get a look in?

The answer is - it all depends. A shipbrokerage firm doesnt offer cadetships because of their naturally altruistic natures. In many cases they look at what candidates can offer them in terms of connections, background and the like. Having a good pedigree always helps. Then there is the academic record and more subjective concerns such as do you have the right personalty for the job etc.

Do you need a work visa? You will need to check this with your governments but I know of quite a few instances of shipbroking firms sponsoring cadets for a certain amount of time.

So if you are not from London or Norway or another major shipping area you need to have a think about what you can offer them.

Some key suggestions - Look for a cadetship, interniship, traineeship with a company that has a satelite office in your home country. That way the firm can see a long term plan for training you.

Many Greeks, Australian, Japanese and American nationals, for example, have trained as shipbrokers in London and then after a specific period are shunted back to the regional office.

This is a great outcome for both parties!

So the simple answer is YES you could land a cadetship in a large European shipbroking firm but you need to think carefully about what you can offer them in return and hence how you go about marketing yourself for that position.

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Yours
VS


(VS and Andy Jamison are the creation, and pen names, of ex Shipbroker Nick van der Hoeven)

141 comments:

  1. Hi,
    I have a question regarding the following statement: "So if you are not from London or Norway or another major shipping area you need to have a think about what you can offer them."

    Does this mean that there is a general advantage in being from a country like Norway?

    Kind regards
    GN, oslo

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  2. Im currently living in Oslo, are there any trainee positions available soon?

    gt

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  3. Hi,

    I am an Indian but i've moving around all my life and with regards to the above discussion I just want to know what chance a candidate like me has.Ive finished my Msc International Transport from Cardiff University-UK and I am currently working as an Operations Coordinator for a freight forwarding company.But I have always wanted to get in to the industry as a Trainee Charterer and I am still trying to do the same. Please advice me on this matter.

    Regards
    SR

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  4. Hi Shishir

    Thanks your message. The thing that people have to realise is that just about everyone within the wider shipping industry would love to have a job as either a shipbroker or a ship charterer. As discussed previously they are by far the most highly paid executives within the wider shipping World.

    So the question you need to ask yourself is what differentiates yourself to the hundreds of other people in the same situation as you?

    There are many different ways to enter the industry and I touch on these in my book 'Inside Shipbroking'. My advise is to be proactive.

    You mention in your message that you are 'trying' to get into the business. Send me a message and let me know what you have been doing in order to try and get a job in the industry and maybe I can give you some added pointers.

    Your academic experience is very good so good luck

    Cheers
    VS

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  5. Hi,

    Could you please tell me what is the difference between a ship broker and a ship charterer so I can make an informed decission on buying one of your books.

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  6. Hi

    A shipbroker and a ship charterer as pretty much the same things. Same skill except a ship charterer is 'usually' someone who works for a cargo based company.

    Shipbrokers cab be
    1. shipbrokers
    2. Ship charterers
    3. Shiponwers
    4. freight traders.

    "Inside shipbroking' covers all 4 in great length.

    Brgds
    VS

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  7. Hi

    I am a sailor and have been sailing for the past 6 years. Now I feel that I should changeover from sailing to something ashore. I have been doing my research for ship broking. Also presently I am pursuing Post Graduation in Shipping Management from India. Also I intend to appear for the pre qualifying exam for MICS. I have also applied at quite a few ship broking companies for a trainee position but they prefer someone with experience in this field.
    Kindly advise.

    Ajit

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  8. Ajit

    It a very competative industry to get your foot in the door. There are many people with qualifications and then send of resumes to the large shipbroing firms. This is like finding a needle in a haystack. You need to be more creative and think laterally. Take a look at "inside shipbroking" when you get a chance.

    Best of luck
    VS

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  9. hi, i'd like to ask you about bunker broker.
    about the payment, is the payment betwen owner and bunkerer is a direct payment, or by broker ?
    I'd like to know, maybe we can make a good relationship.
    i'm a bunker supplier and trader too.
    thanks

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  10. Good Question - bunker broking is a little different to shipbroking. For the uninitiated a bunker broker is a shipbroker of sorts - they broker the price and supply of a vessels fuel (bunkers). The payment system varies and many times the broker takes on some risk with regards to the payment. This is not usual in standard shipbroking whereby the brokers take not part in the exchange of funds!

    Cheers
    VS

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  11. Hi VS

    My name is Mark, I am Latvian, 23 - past 2.5 years was working in container shipping in operations and sales in Ireland but I am always wanted to become shipbroker.
    I have professional high school diploma in international transport management and now want to continue my education in Institute of Chartered shipbrokers. My questions are - do I have a good or bed chances with my experience and education at the moment, to get ship broker trainee position and is ICS really that good and recognized that will increase my chances to become shipbroker?

    thanks

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  12. Hello Mark

    Whilst your experience and your transport diploma are a great start I think the ICS exams would be perfect for you.

    While you are studying you should always be looking at ways to increase your chances of getting your foot in the door. Thats the secret. Good luck

    VS

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  13. Hi VS,

    How much usually a Trainee Shipbroker earns in a first year, Is it enough to make a living?

    thanks
    Mark

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  14. Good Question Mark - Especially in the current market. It depends is the short answer.

    WHich country / city are you talking about because that will have a bearing....?

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  15. Well I am looking at Hamburg as I am living in Germany at the moment.

    Thanks
    Mark

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  16. Mark

    Hamburg is a major shipping centre in a first class economy so I would expect that a trainee should be on a wage that is liveable. Having said that what is liveable is different to many people. If you live at home then you can live cheaply. If you are 38 with 2 children and a habit for expensive single malt scotch then I doubt a trainee wage is liveable.

    So that is for you to decide.

    I am reluctant to give you a figure because I dont want shipbroker firm who may be reading thinking they can take advantage of young trainees - because that is bad karma for the industry and the shipbrokerage shop in question.

    If you like send me a private confidential email letting me know more details and I can give you a better idea. I know the Hamburg market quite well.

    Best Regards
    VS

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  17. I see that Oslo Shipbrokers are looking for a junior shipbroker / trainee. Check out the Tradewinds link (in the job link section) for full details.

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  18. Hi VS,
    I have a lil problem. Do you have any knowledge in railway? My friend asked me to help her to find out how much will cost to move malt from Belarus to Poland by rail. As I don't have experience in this area I have some questions to ask. Would you be able to help here?

    Best regards
    Mark

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  19. Hi There

    Sorry no idea about Euro bulk railway procedures..

    Good Luck!

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  20. Hi VS,

    Im Johnie from the Philippines. I'm a seafarer and an IT support specialist. I'm very interested with shipbroking ,my only problem is how to start. I'm a BS Marine Transportation graduate and I also tried to apply for shipbroker trainee position with several companies but unfortunately no luck. Please help me.

    Thanks

    Johnie

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  21. Hello Johnie!

    Keep reading the entire blog for more tips and think about purchasing 'Inside shipbroking' for great strategies.

    Cheers
    VS

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  22. Hi,

    I have worked in a ship port agency field for 8 years. My academic qulification is B.Commerce, MBA and i have also cleared 'Qualifying Exams' MICS.

    I have applied to many big shipbroking firms, but have not got an interview call.

    Thought my approach to get into a closed group of shipbrokers is inappropriate.

    Seek you suggestion to get into shipbrokers job.

    B/rgds
    JKK007

    Could you please suggest

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  23. Hi,
    Where from can i buy INSIDE SHIPBROKING?
    B/rgds
    JKK007

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  24. Hi - You can buy inside shipbroking by following the prompts in the blog - its a fully downloadable ebook

    Brgds
    VS

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  25. Hi - I was wondering whether a profile like mine would match to become a shipbroker or charterer. I did an MBA in Hospitality Finance, I have about a year experience in the hotel industry. I feel I don't belong in this sector. I need more excitment and adrenaline rush! I thought about the army but it pay s**t and don't feel like dying either. Not yet. With this kind of background, do you think I can have a chance to make my first steps?

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  26. hi,
    i am atul satre from india, i am a seafarer and had a bachelor degree in nautical science and has 3 year of experience. i am keen interested in ship broking and chartering but bit confused in how to start with these ones. please suggest me for any relevant courses to approach and how to get entrance for trainee position for broker and charterer.

    thanking you

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  27. Hello Atul - That my firend is the million dollar question! Shipbroking is not like Accounting or Law or Medicine. One cannot just do a course and then expect to gain admission. What you can do is give yourself the very best chance but there are no guarantees. The most common course to complte is the ICS shipbroker diploma but techinically you do not need any qualifications to be a chartering or shipbroking executive.

    For further explanation check out 'inside shipbroking'

    Brgds
    VS

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  28. Hello,

    Even though I don’t have an experience in shipbroking field, I got an telephonic interview call from a leading shipbroking firm. Possibly because of my ship port agency background they might have shortlisted me for an interview.

    Would you please suggest,

    What kind of questions I expect during the conversation?

    What skills and qualities are they expecting in the candidates?

    Any other quick tips from your experience,

    Appreciate your dedication towards the world of shipbrokers.

    Many thanks,
    JK

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  29. Hi JK

    Although I am not sure what a 'telephonic interview' is - well done.

    Let us know how you go!

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  30. Hi

    I am thinking in getting into the shipping industry as a trainee shipbroker. I am 31 is age importnat in being succesful in applying for shiprbroker? I have a BA in languages and MA in Intercultural communications. I am multicultural and i can speak 5 languages including Geek Italian. Do you think i have any chances in getting the job?
    thanks Sal

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  31. Hi Sal - I think being able to speak 'Geek' Italian is a very unique attribute. Most Italians I know are not geeks so you may have found a niche!

    Ah - you meant Greek! Sorry..

    Look, anyone with your qualification would be a magnificent asset to any chartering company.

    Its a matter of getting in the door. Your age is not ideal especially if you habe no maritime background. That is you major issue.

    If you have any connections then you should try your luck..

    Cheers
    VS

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  32. Hi, many thanks for a veri infromative blog.

    I am a solicitor practicing in an unrelated area of law,in an Engish speaking jurisdiction. I would like to "break into" the industry. I am considering an LLM in maritime law from a reputable university as a way of gaining exposure to the business, perhaps with a view to working for a specilaist admiralty firm. On the negative side, I'm 41. On the plus side, I'm of Greek decent and speak the language well.
    I would greatly appreciate your thoughts.

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  33. Hello Anon.

    Good questions and ones that i cannot really answer with any certainty. In all honesty you probably have a better idea than me (or any shipping person) as to the ability for solicitors to move from one area of practice to another. I cannot immagine that moving from say Intellectual property law to commercial property law would be any different than trying to move into admiralty law - if you know what I mean.

    Have a chat to some of the major Shipping lawyers in your area and sound them out!

    It is an interesting area and one that is growing - thats for sure!

    Good luck
    VS

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  34. hi,
    My name is femi.i really want to break into the industry but i have a Bsc Microbiology from nigeria.i am presently pursuing a post graduate course in shipping management.I also intend wrting the professional course(ics).pls how do i break into the system because in nigeria people say there are no many shipbroking firms.infact,some say i have to travell abroad if i want to get a job in this area.please advice me.

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  35. Hi Virtual Shipbroker
    I am studying "International Transportation and Trade" at Suny Maritime College in New York.I have one more year to finish my Bachelor degree.
    And now I am doing an internship at Maersk Broker in New Jersey. I am a brazilian woman who speaks portuguese, some spanish and some italian.
    I am very interested in the shipbroker industry however I am 29 years old. Do you think that I am too old to start a career in this area?

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  36. Hi Gica

    No you are not too old! the fact you have an interniship with Marsk s a great thing. Use that process to develop contacts and keep focused.

    Cheers
    VS

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  37. Good day,

    I´m a Colombian living in Brazil (33 years old), experienced as Ship/Port Operations and for some years port agent for mayor container lines (such MSK and CSAV), have a Msc Degree from the WMU in Shipping Management and has been accepted as Member of the ICS.

    I had been trying to step into shipbroking business w/o success so far. I would ask your opinion as to which mayor shipbroking house may be interested in someone with my profile.

    Brgds,
    OFG

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  38. Hi Virtual Shipbroker,

    I'm 23 years old and I live in Hamburg, Germany. I just passed my apprenticeship as shipbroker by a Managing Owner of 14 container vessels.
    I would like to work abroad for improving my English and to gain some experiences in other cultures.

    The finacial crisis makes it hard to find a job as ship broker. Could you give me an advice where I can find a job?
    Thank you for your assistance!

    Mathis

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  39. Hello Mathis

    The financial crisis has not dented the shipping industry too much.

    The job market internationally is very good.

    Why not register your resume with an employment agency like 'Halcyon' and keep surfing the job add links on my blog (right hand column)

    The other thing you could do is stay where you are for a few more years before trying the move. you are still very young and although English is important it is not as important as getting valuable experience. If you have a job Keep IT! For the time being anyway.

    A great time to travel imo is 25 years and over.

    Cheers
    VS

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  40. Hi VS,

    I have a first round interview with Howe Robinson & Co for a trainee ship broker position and was wondering whether you could give me some advice on interview preparation. I realise this is a perfect opportunity for me to get my foot in the door and really don't want to mess it up. How to I best market myself - your wisdom would be very much appreciated

    Thanks a lot,

    OHG

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  41. Good Luck OH! Best advice is to be clean cut, respectful and ready for anything. Come across as someone who is ready for all challenges - ie working long hours, travel etc.

    You need that unique blend of calmness yet showing you have lots of energy. (dont be so calm you will fall of the chair and dont be a jack in the box)

    Ad brush up on your shipping knowledge. if you can prove that you already know certain basics then this will put you in great position to win the job..

    And then send me 1.25 percent of your first deal for being a nice guy.

    That should do it!

    Cheers
    VS

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  42. Hi VS

    I have a Maritime business with logistics undergraduate degree and Master in law in Maritime and Marine law. I got both of them in UK. Now I reaaly want to be a shipbroker. I have looked at many websites on traineeship in shipbroking. Most of them are in London and other European countries.
    But I'd love to stay in the US. Say if I do take a traineeship in London. is there a better chance for me to find a shipbroking job in the US when I finish my traineeship? Thanks.

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  43. Hello Anon

    Your qualifications are similar to mine. One day you too can aspire to a shipbroking blog! Just kidding - thats my turf! (plus the pay aint that good)

    Few points - US shipping companies also offer trainee ships. But heading to the Europe and the UK is also a good idea. So no real answer for you - just go with whats there.

    The other point i should make/ask (and I seem to be asking this alot recently) 'Why are you just applying to shipbroking companies?"...

    If you have read 'Inside Shipbroking' you will know that this is the least likely chance (percentage wise) to gain entry in the profession. Especially someone with your background.

    Good luck

    VS

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  44. Hi Virtual Shipbroker,

    I graduated from univeristy last June with a degree in Management and now am studying for my ICS foundation diploma (chose dry cargo as my second module). I am looking for trainee positions or other shipbroker openings. I must be based in London for the meantime as I'm just signed up for a 12 months contract on a flat!

    I would be really appreciative if you knew of any shipbroker houses in London that are hiring at the moment as it all seems a little dry on the employment front from my perspective.


    Thanks a lot for your time

    Oliver

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  45. Oliver - again I repeat myself - any reason you are only looking at shipbroking companies?

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  46. Virtual Shipbroker/ Oliver

    I spent 3 months at Clarksons and realised that shipbroking was the profession for me. It ties into my personality well and my future career needs and goals.

    I'm sure you have repeated yourself but this threads dates back to April 2009. I would love to know if you know of any shipbroking firms who are hiring. I have heard mixed reviews about certain trainee programs and as it is not trainee program season do you think my chances are pretty low of landing my dream job at this time of the year?

    Thanks

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  47. Dear VS,

    Good evening!

    Firstly, thank you so much for taking the time to write this blog and for answering all our questions.
    I will soon be having an interview at a top shipbroking firm and wanted to get an idea of how strong my profile will look when considered.
    I'm 24, with around 5 years of international work experience 2 of witch have been in Shanghai for a logistics company. I speak native English and have a fluent comand of Mandarin and Spainish.
    With a clear ammount of drive and determination will I be an ideal candidate?

    Thanks a bunch and keep up the great work!

    Admiral Jack

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  48. Hi Oliver

    I am not sure about the trainne hiring season. Most trainees are hired without actually going into the market (formal job add).

    Si it really is a case of hiting the pavement and making those phone calls!

    Again look to broaden your horizons.

    brgds
    VS

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  49. Eye Eye Admiral - Looking good! if you could just add Bhutanese then there would be no turning back!

    cheers
    VS

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  50. Hi there,

    Im in a senior sales position working in Singapore for a major US firm. I am pretty succesful but want to change industry. I currently run a team across APAC and deal with senior CIO/CXO on a daily basis focusing on business orientated challenges that can be addressed with IT. I want to know whether making the transition is feasible, whether I would start from scratch as a ship broker or whether the negotiation and problem solving skills I have are transferable. Any guidance greatly recieved. I also hold a batchelors degree in economics.

    Thanks

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  51. Hi VS,

    Tonns of appreciation for launching this platform of VS where we get prompt and sincere replys to all our qestions

    one more, I graduated in shipping course and have a sailing background of 7 yrs with mates license, MBA in Logistics & Supply Chain, presently working for worlds leading commodity trading house as Vessel Operator for abt 1 yr and same time persuing Cert Co in Ship Chartering from Lloyds Maritime Acad, all my effort and energy is directed towards ship chartering/trading/broking where I am constantly looking for some break/entry positions

    Pls guide extra efforts/resource to be put from my side

    Thanks million tonnes for yr sincere advise

    Rgds

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  52. Thanks for the comment!

    Why not hang around at Cargil or Glencore or Bunge and see if eventually you can move into chartering. What you need is some extar commercial (not just operational) experience.

    I know i am plugging my own thing but the voyage estimator pack would be a fantastic start to understand the commercial realties of shipping. If you could dazzle colleagues with regular voyage estimations then you are on a winner. Plus voyage estimation open up your world to shipowning, not to mention shipbroking!

    Understanding how to estimate is the most underrated of all the hands on techniques needed in bulk shipping BAR NONE. Or else i would not have written the manual!

    I have a feeling that no matter what - you will succeed anyway due to your drive.

    Best of luck
    VS

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  53. By the way - in reply to the last person. many shipoperators earn very big money and the job can be less stressul than 'chartering/commercial roles'.

    If you are a senior operator at a major company, im guessing (educated)you are on low/mid 100's and can add to that by moving abroad!

    Not a bad gig!

    cheers
    VS

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  54. Good morning,

    First of all, I'd like to thank you for the opening of this topic. It is not usual to find straight information on "how to get started".

    I am an English and French Spanish translator (25) who became interested on Shipping a few years ago and took a masters diploma in this area. Regarding the global economic situation, I find it hard to get started (companies in Spain ask to wait until "things calm down next year"). I don't care moving abroad, I actually like moving...

    So, my question is: are there any websites with offers to consider? I have looked around in the Asian and American brokering associations with no positive results. Any options? Should I directly take a plane to London and bring my CV on me?

    Thank you for your time.

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  55. heres aan oppertunity for someone interested to work in a shipbroing office -we are looking for an inddividual willing to learn and broker deals relating to ships for demolition in indian subcontinent-we will hold his hands and take him through the client base and the technicalities of doing sale and purchase agreement-there is an excellent oppertunity for someone with a gut feel for this business to even develop the chartering side of the broking business as there is much goodwill the company has in the industry for some one willing to take the plunge

    will be glad to hear

    anil bhasin

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  56. Anil

    Great and thanks for the post!

    Please send me the details privatly. i will need company name, rate of pay, location etc. if the job is legitimate then I will let people know how to contact you.

    Kind regards
    VS

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  57. Hi virtual shipbroker,
    My name is Alexandros ,I am 27 years of age.I currently live in Greece and I am working in the life insurance bussiness.However, I want to get into shipbroking and for that reason I am attending the ICS program in Piraeus to prepare for the exams in April for the foundation diploma and currently searching for the oppurtunity to work as a trainee shipbroker.Prior to the ICS program I have no experience in shipping.Taking this into account but also the fact that my family have been in the shipping industry as masters-mariners(grandfathers) and naval architects(my uncle and father have marine established consultant offices in Piraeus the last 25 years) and also the fact that english is a native language to me(my mother is from Newcastle England) what are my chances of getting into the bussiness?And Is it better to search in Piraeus or places like London for such a trainee position? I also would like to note there is not much movement with trainee positions at the moment in Piraeus.

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  58. This is a monester thread!

    Hello Alexandros. Your background and experience is good. I see no reason why you could not be a shipbroker.

    You should cast your net far and wide and be willing to travel. As discussed in previous posts although you think that the trainee situation in greece is slow atm - the bottom line is that the number of OPEN trainee positions anywhere in the world is always very small. Most hiring is done without ever seeing an advertised position.

    You should also consider not just pure shipbroking companies. Shipbroking is a transferable skill.

    If you havent ready INSIDE SHIPRBOKING then you are behind the eight ball!

    Good luck
    VS

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  59. Hello VS,

    Thanks for your response. Here's a link to our website www.westwardshipping.net which will give you a fair idea about my company.

    Following our sale of 50 percent equity in the Joint Venture which was entirely set up and managed by me, I now intend to interact with an individual happy to live in Delhi ready to take the challenge of taking the company back to reorganizing the Chartering business. The individual will be based out of Delhi and ideally have Crude Tanker chartering experience having relationships with VLCC owners. He should consider himself capable to take on developing dry bulk in addition to being hands on tankers.

    As for salary and terms it will need to be discussed but will certainly be in line with the demands of the industry.

    Best regards
    Anil Bhasin
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  60. Hello VS,

    Virtual Shipbroker blogs are really informative and shaping career in Ship Broking world. Thanks for providing this platform.

    Like many of our above colleagues I am also interested to make my career in ship-brokering. I have finished my Post graduate diploma in shipping management from Narottam Morarjee Institute of Shipping. Further, I have two years experience in working in shipping company. One year as ship agent in Mumbai tanker operation department and one year in Dubai office to manage tanker vessels, RO-RO Vessels operations along with freight forwarding sales and operations. Freight forwarding activities has developed my commercial background in shipping business along with my operational background. Further to develop my commercial business background , I moved to United Kingdom for my further studies in M.Sc. International Business course which is completing by June'10.

    I have searched for ship-broking firms in London, but is my profile right to apply for job. Also, What should be my approach for applying? Should I visit the ship-broking office or should I apply for job through email because I don't have any idea about vacancy in this ship-broking firms.

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  61. Hi Vinod

    Your profile is excellent. You just need to play to your strenghts!.

    Check out 'inside shipbroking' when you get the chance. That will answer all your questions.

    brgds
    VS

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  62. Hi there,

    I'm a near graduate student from Turkey, northwestern side. It is also being completed, which I'm studying during 5 years inside and finallly will become a oceangoing officer. But, sure that in this time of globalling, it is a compulsory to do something more. I decide to learn a language more, different from German, Turkish and British also. And aslo wondering which language is better to known in shipbroking sector different from those. Lookin' help.

    B/Rgrds
    Egemen

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  63. Dear VS

    Firstly, congratulations on an excellent blog!

    Secondly, I have been selected for the first stage of interviews for a Graduate Scheme for a leading shipbroking company. I have a BSc in Maritime Business and Maritime Law, and currently studying to obtain a Masters degree.

    I am asking whether you have any advice for anybody preparing for an interview? Or any idea of what sort of questions are likely to be asked? I have already messed up a telephone interview with another leading firm, and really don't want to mess up again!

    Thanks for your time, and once again excellent blog!

    Regards.

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  64. Dear VS,

    I am 21 and have BSc in Business Management from one of the UKs leading business shools. Furthermore I am completing Msc in Marine Policy at Cadiff University and PQE at ICS this year. I can also fluently speak three languages. However, I have short work experience as a ship agent. Will my lack of professional experience be of any significant diadvantage in geting the job in shipbroking?

    Kind Regards,

    Oleg

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  65. Hello Oleg - you are young so we cant expect you to have too much experience especially considering your excellent academic record.

    You are starting where 90 percent of other future brokers start from so go for it!

    VS

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  66. Before my question, I would like to thank the Virtual Ship Broker for the time lost in sharing experience and important information here.
    I have to confess I feel a little uncomfortable here with all young ambitious people before me.
    I am 46 years old, valid Master Mariner Certificate holder, with considerable dry cargo vessels on board experience
    My surveyor’s experience include dry and wet cargo surveys, condition surveys, project cargo and many others
    I could also mention some trainer’s experience – Cargo handling and stowage, dangerous cargoes and others
    Currently I am a student in the Institute of Chartered Ship Brokers. I have to sit the last exam next April.
    I live in East Europe and I speak English and Russian languages.
    I need to ask if I have any chance for trainee ship broker and how long it takes to get to the next level in brokering.

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  67. Hi there

    No nned to feel uncomfortable as you are among friends. Having said that your question is more than valid. My suiggestion, as always, is that people need to play to their strengths. With your age and background the best chance for you to enter broking and chartering is through the side door.

    I reckon you should be looking for jobs as a ship operator, or in the operations department of a brokerager shop. You have excellent expertise. Many people do this and after a few years move accross to a commercial role.

    The other great reason for following this path is that operations people with your experience are very well paid. No need to start on a small junior brokers wage.

    Otherwise - without industry contacts, your chance of direct entry in a commercial role could be limited.

    I predict great things for all shipping people in their 40's!

    Best of luck
    VS

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  68. Hi, VS,

    I am 30 years old and have the MSC in Shipbuilding and Offshore Engineering from one of the university in china. Currently I am working in Singapore for the Norwegian classification society, basically responsible for the marketing and sales of the software solution for ships in operation, and have some links with the ship owners and management companies here in Singapore in addition to the links with Chinese shipyards.

    I am wondering whether my background is ok to apply for the ship broker job, especially the ship sales and purchase sector. Or should I do something before my application, like pass ICS exam, or find some other job to gain some experience that the ship broking companies appreciated? Would you like to advise what should I do next step? And is my age will be a problem, is it a little bit too late to change my carrier path now?

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  69. Dear VS,

    I am 24 years old and holder of a BSc in Maritime Studies(University of Piraeus) and currently I am finishing my MSc in Belgium. Do you know any trainee programs in the BENELUX area? Can you suggest any website or employment service for finding a job?

    Many thanks.

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  70. Dear VS,

    Can you advise how to prepare for trainee shipbroking interview session?

    Kind regards

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  71. How to prepare hey?

    100 push ups and few Hail Mary's (or equiv for non christians).

    Cheers
    VS

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  72. Hello Sir,
    I have done a Bachelor deg. in Nautical science and have been sailing for past 3 year;And i would like to know how to pursue career in Ship broking and chartering and courses i would require to attend.
    Thanks

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  73. Hello VS,
    Recently I got so interested in Shipping law and being a Chartered Ship broker. I need your advice in relation to this and what the stakes are for me, given my perculiar background.
    I graduated with an LL.B in English Private law from Cameroon West Africa. I am pursuing a Juris Doctor in American & International law in South Korea. I'll be taking the New York state bar July of 2011 and also intend enrolling with Coracle online.
    What advice have you for me? I am 23 years old.
    thank you

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  74. You should be working for the United nations - wow thats quite a resume. Congratulations. Shipping law is probably where your strenghts lie to tell you the truth. Although there is no doubt you could be a broker I remind you that many brokers have qualifications at all.

    I could see you running a shipping company by the time you are 30 but i cant see you being a shipbroker trainee earning USD 30,000 if you know what I mean!...

    Keep up with the law, by all means do the coracle online study, then get yourself an MBA and conquer the world...

    If your heart is set in Shipbroking then you should read 'Inside Shipbroking' for tips on how to leverage your your chances.

    Best of Luck
    VS

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  75. Above should read "many broker have NO qualifications at all"

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  76. What about Shipbroking in the United States, is there much activity and is there much money to be made?

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  77. Hi VS -

    I have been actively looking in the USA for several months now for some kind of ship brokering trainee/cadet position. I have combed through almost every shipping job post board I could find, LinkedIn, any networking contacts I have (very limited), and am having a tough time even getting in contact with anyone to find out more information about what I need to do. I am about to start looking up companies in the USA and cold calling their brokers to find out a way to get into the industry. Do you have any recommendations as for where to look and who to contact within the USA?

    Any help would be much appreciated!!

    Ty

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  78. Ty - have you read 'sindie shipbroking'? I give lots of tips in there to eleverage your position.

    Cheers
    VS

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  79. Hi VS;
    I have been following your blog with some interest. I have been a Freight Forwarder in New York for over 16 years, I am in my mid-forties. How would you reccommend I get into the shipbroking field?
    -BK

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  80. Hey I am an Asian female, 25. I have a finance degree and worked 2 years in a major shipping line as a management trainee.I speak fluent English,Chinese,Korean,German,and now I am doing a master degree in law. I have a good personality for shipbroker.but since I am female living in continental europe, I am concerned what is the possibility for me to find a ship broking job?

    Thanks

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  81. Hey VS,

    thank you for this great blog! I am German and highly interested in the Hamburg market. I was trying to find out who the major players in Hamburg are. Are there any sources where I can find information on that or could you provide me with some names? How do you consider switching from a traineeship in shipping to ship brokerage?
    I would be very grateful for your response!
    Sincerely, T

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  82. Hi All

    An asian female living and working in continental Europe, speaking all those languages - hot property! You need to do some shipbroking and chartering specific training / research first and then yes - get your resume and cover letter perfected and go for it! Maybe your current employer could hire you in the chartering department?

    ++

    MR T (from germany. My shipbroker list gives you names of companies in Hamburg. "Inside Shipbroking' also discusses ways to find out who is doing 'shipbroking' type activities in your region. This information is not always easy to find!

    Cheers
    VS

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  83. Hello VS,

    Im a fresh Diploma graduate in shipping operations from Singapore. I have no experience in the shipping industry and my past working experience is a big difference from this field. I am really keen joining a marine based company. How high do you think are my chances in landing a trainee shipbroker job in Singapore? and is there any preference in such companies; eg. age requirement?

    Thanks in advance for your advise.

    Sincerely,
    TT

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  84. A good chance - ask your education provider to help with job placement!

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  85. I wonder if you could give me some advice please?
    I am a deck Officer with an OOW ticket and studying for Chief mates. Thinking about a career change. Would it be benificial before seeking a trainee position to do a diploma from the ICS? What saleries can a trainee expect? I live in Glasgow so the possiblility of having to relocate is high...are there good websites for finding a trainee position?

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  86. Thanks for asking - all this info is in my blog and my books Inside Shipbroking. Keep reading and good luck.

    VS

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  87. Good Day VS,

    I have a sailing experience of 11 years with a Masters Licence from India, currently doing PGD in Shipping management. My question is will this PGD suffice or do I need to do more courses along with my experience to get into the business?

    Thks

    Rgds
    Aseem

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  88. Hello VS,

    Great blog, I always stop by to see what is new!

    I have a question for you.

    Is it possible to work in the ship-brokerage industry in the Beijing-Tianjin area?

    I guess you could consider myself an entry-level worker. I did an internship over the summer with a brokerage firm that dealt mainly with dirty and clean products. I spent my time in their ny office and another of their offices in a latin american country.

    I do understand that on a global scale the energy shipping sector is strategically located in singapore, london etc. I have been doing a lot of research to find a position there in beijing/tianjin, but there does not seem to be many.

    What are your thoughts on the shipping industry in china? and perhaps more specifically to the beijing-tianjin area? Do you believe it is possible to find a position with another ship-brokerage firm there? And who are the big brokerage players?

    Thank you in advance!

    MV

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  89. Hi MV

    You arent looking hard enough. Apart from Signapore China has the quickest growing chartering scene in the world. Shanhgai and Beijing are the major shipping centres where the biggest shipping companies ply there trade.

    Keep digging - they are there!

    PS - why are you concnetrating only on shipbroking firms? There are other organisations that employ shipbrokers!

    Cheers/VS

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  90. VS-

    Thank you!

    Yes I had noticed there was a lot going on in shanghai, however beijing seemed a little less lively. Ultimately I would like to find something in the energy shipping sector, and this was something I was not coming across in Beijing, more so in Hong Kong and Shanghai. Do you believe it may be possible to find something in the energy shipping sector in Beijing?

    If so this would be great news for me! I hear you on other organizations that employ shipbrokers. I was looking at various energy firms and shipholding firms, is there anything else I am missing?

    Thank you very much for your kind thoughts and comments VS, they are always appreciated!

    With utmost regards,
    MV

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  91. Hi VS,

    I'm a recruiter for the shipping sector and this industry interests me a whole deal. I do not have the experience in this nor did I study this. I'm concerned with making a switch and how much salary is good for a switch.

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  92. Hello hotrockstarchick.

    All the answers are available in this blog. Good luck with you change of career direction.

    VS

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  93. Hi VS,

    I have 2 years experience at chemical tankers as an officer.after I get my chief officer licence and get some chief officer experience I decide to go for master diploma to uk. But I have some diffuculties chosing the city and university. Can you offer me what should i chose.southampton solent ,liverpool john moores and newcastle universities are the options. the other thing is I want to have a field at shipbrokeng during my education.

    thanks for your help.. best regards.

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  94. Hi Ozan

    All good questions but truth is if yu want to get into shipbroking you should probably be looking at doing the ics course. If you want a broader maritime business course then all you mentioned are well regarded.

    cheers
    VS

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  95. Hey VS if u rem me, i sent out my trainee application with abit of ur help, problem is im starting to get quite discouraged, im already turning 29 this year - is it a tad bit absurd for me to try and attempt to be part of a trainee programme? would i even be considered?

    ying

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  96. The older you are the harder it will be especially if you are applying for advertised positions. Most tranee roles arent advertised

    Cheers
    VS

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  97. Dear VS,

    I am 28, Newcastle Naval Architecture graduate and for the past 4 years I am located in Shanghai working in the shipbuilding industry. I got to know what a bulk carrier and a tanker is, from the technical point of view. I got to see a few of the biggest Chinese shipyards and how they work. I also got to know Chinese people, learn their language and figure out how to communicate and cooperate successfully with them.

    I am recently thinking of starting my own business and act as an intermediate between Chinese shipyards and shipowners. Is this a realistic idea, as I am lacking the basics of shipbroking? What course would you suggest I should take?

    Thank you
    Dimitris

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  98. Hello VS,

    I am 28 yrs old, have 1 year experience in freight forwarding company as a Cargo Agent and BA in Economics. Following this I moved to London to do ICS courses and gained Advance Diploma. I've red all said so far in this blog, find it really helpful. My question is what are my chances to find a trainee ship broking or chartering position not knowing any one one in the business. Should I continue trying or is better to continue with the freight forwarding by doing any extra courses form BIFA?

    Thank you very much

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  99. Dear VS,

    I'm 31 years old and I have been sailing on chemical tankers as an officer for the last 5 years.I have a strong maritime background and
    I intend to take the ICS Courses and trying a
    career change. Do you consider that is possible
    taking in consideration that I have no direct
    connections to the shipbrokers?

    Regards,
    Daniel

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  100. VS,

    I am 20 years old and am from England, near the port of Immingham. My father is MD at a successful ship's agency firm and as a result has managed to work some magic in the form of getting me a job as a trainee broker on the Chemical desk at SSY in London, where I have now been for 3 weeks.

    At the moment I am only still doing the basics in the form of updating position lists and I am about to begin talking to some owners when time allows so I am not yet too stretched or stressed but am conscious that the responsibilities and pressure will vastly increase in no time.

    I am just after a bit of advice on ways to get ahead and make a name for myself as there are high expectations on my shoulders because of my father and his reputation within the industry.

    Pleased to hear your thoughts and appreciate your time in reading this.

    Regards,

    Jack Gifford

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  101. Hello Jack

    Try reading Inside shipbroking and Fast track which both full of info and ways for you to get ahead in shipbroking. Your fathers firm is well respected and I am sure you will be a success on your own terms (there is no other way).

    Keep rockin and thanks for the post
    VS

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  102. Hi,
    I am currently a lawyer living in London and i'm looking for a change of career. I have identified shipbroking as a career which would both suit my skill set and personality. I note that you believe a person can get trained as a broker within 3 months. For someone who is ambitious and looking for quick progression would you recommend a traineeship with a smaller shipping company where this would be more likely or a larger recognised shipping company with a more structured training programme? I would be grateful for your advice and recommendations.
    Many thanks

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  103. The Virtual ShipbrokerAugust 7, 2011 at 3:44 PM

    Howdy

    Yes many lawyers ask the same questions. I do think that a broker or a freight trader can be trained in 3 months. The problem is that most companies take 6 months to 2 years to train people (with very few exceptions)

    The reasons are varied.

    I have absolutely no doubt that people can be trained in 3 months and then start fixing. Shipbroking is NOT rocket science.

    Cheers
    VS

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  104. Thanks so much for your response.

    I would be really grateful if you could recommend a few smaller shipping companies which I can approach, as i'm really keen to get into this.

    Many thanks

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  105. The Virtual ShipbrokerAugust 8, 2011 at 5:46 PM

    If only life were that easy my friend. Send VS a few emails, I give you the names of companies ready to hire you and 2 weeks later you have a job that leeds to a 6 figure salary within 2 years.....

    I bet you are keen.

    Alas it isnt that easy. You need to expend some energy, time and money yourself to find opportunities.

    Good luck!

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  106. Hi, i work in investment banking operations aged 30 and i have had a thorough interest in shipbroking for some time. I have been taking banking qualifications and speak greek but would like to move in to the shipbroking industry. Is there a realistic chance i could be taken seriously as a candidate for a role at a shipbroking firm? Thanks

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  107. Hello,
    I am 26years old and I m Greek. I graduated from the University of Hertfordshire(bsc) in Accounting and Information Systems and finished my postgraduate studies in Marine Policy(Cardiff University). I am currently working in the sales department in one of the largest companies in the section of computers in Greece. I am looking to develop my career in shipping and although Athens is a major shipping centre, the situation in Greece is very well-known. I m looking for a job mostly as a trainee broker the last 2 years. I m thinking to try abroad. Am I looking to the right direction(trainee broker)? Should I try to enter the industry through another position? If yes, which position do you think would fit more to me? And finally any suggestions of a Europian country I could have more chances to find a job in the shipping industry now??
    Thanks in advance and apologize for the long text..

    Jordan

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  108. Hallo,

    I would really appreciate your guidance on the following issue: I am looking for a trainee position in shipbroking for the last 12 months in London but nothing has happened so far. I have a B.A in International Relations and a MSc in International Shipping from University of Plymouth.I am 35 years old Greek who recently relocated in the UK and I have no practical experience in shipping so far, as the situation in Greece is terrible.Could you advice me what I could do? The ship broking companies in London dont seem to give much opportunities as regards a trainee position. I have 4 years of working experience but in positions that are not related with shipping.

    Kind Regards,

    Yannis

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  109. The Virtual ShipbrokerNovember 30, 2011 at 1:01 PM

    Hello Yannis

    Thanks email

    I guess you have two things going againsts you

    1. You lack of experience and
    2. your age..

    How long ago did you study shipping? What have you been doing for the last 15 years in terms of work..all the questions would need to be answered for me to give a considered opinion. Companies are still hiring but you need to be a good fit and you need to present a compelling case. Are your resume and cover letters up to scratch? Have you read Inside Shipbroking for ecta tips?? Feel free to send mea private email. Cheers VS

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  110. Dear Virtual Shipbroker,

    I really do appreciate your honest answer. Indeed some parameters in my case are unique and need to be discussed in a private e-mail.However, I was not able to find your private e-mail.

    Could I possibly have your e-mail for I really need to expose my case to you for further guiding.

    Much appreciated. I am looking forward for your private e-mail.

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  111. Yannis

    virtualshipbroker@yahoo.com

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  112. Hello Virtual Shipbroker,
    i'd like your advice..I have done my Msc in Shipping at London..I'm 25..i'm unemployed for one year..except an internship in a greek shipping company..Recently i had a suggestion from a shipbroking company to work there as a dry cargo chartering broker but i have some doubts and i need your advice..They told me that company's policy is no salary(not even a minimum), only commissions from the deals( big though 40-50%) but still for someone like me who is completely young at the sector seems not favorable to me..And they didn't say anything relevant to insurance etc..Could you advise me what's better to do? Thank you in advance.
    Cheers VS

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  113. If you can afford it then maybe go for it.....

    I dont usually like commish only deals but in greece you may have to accept whatever is going..

    The good things are this

    - its still cheaper then paying for retraining at university
    - you will gain experience no matter the outcome and this will look good on your resume..
    - you may be a start and start fixing quick and the sky is the limit..

    If you back yourself, have access to cashflow to get you through, maybe still live with your parents...etc etc then go for it

    cheers
    vs

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  114. I am working with leading tanker company as second officer at sea based in greece. I have recently applied for the shipbroker trainnee program 2 yrs run by Maersk. Kindly advics about the same . Should i go for it if get selected.

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  115. Hi VS,

    Hello from Singapore - great blog u have here! I am a 29 yr old female who is looking at a career switch into shipbrokering. I was previously doing fashion merchandising (!!!). It is a big switch and i'm fortunate to be given a foot in the door.. What do you think are the challenges that i have to overcome seeing that:
    a) i have no shipping knowledge whatsoever
    b) i am female
    c) i am 29 years old
    d) i am unmarried (my family worries that i will have no time to find a partner- haha)

    Is it worth it to start from scratch? I have to be a trainee for 2 yrs (minimal salary) and afterwards will be placed in the vegoil division in a shipbrokering firm (one of the biggest in sg i'm told). I might be handling europe accs so that means working from 10am - 10pm (seeing that europe opens at 3-4pm sg time).

    Hope you can advise!

    And if yes, i should go for it- how do i convince the chairman!

    Thanks a million!

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  116. Hello my dear Virtual Shipbroker.

    I am a 25 years old woman from Greece. Right now i am working as a technical office in a maritime service provider company in Greece. Next month i will pass from an interview for the Claksons Graduate programme 2012. Do you have any idea about what this programme offers? It is just an intership? Allthough i am very interested to attended it, i can not afford the living cost in London without taking any salary.

    Hope you can advice!

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  117. Dear Virtual Shipbroker,

    I am a Brit who's been studying mandarin chinese full-time for a year and a half. I also passed the GDL (law conversion) two years ago, and have a degree from UCL in English Lit. I have been looking to get into Shipping law but am also very interested in shipbroking. Do you think that I could ask a shipbroking firm in London for sponsorship to continue studying Chinese to fluency? I'm now pretty good but not quite fluent ; ). How could I go about this? Assuming I would then work at that brokerage?

    Thanks!

    Alex

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  118. @Singapore anon...

    wow lots of questions i cannot answer. Just go for it...and if you dont like it find another job! Good luck!

    @nina

    Hi Nina - working for clarksons in an internships is a fantastic opportunity. Try and accept and find a way to live! Good luck!

    @Alex

    Im not sure a broekerage would sponsor you to learn chinese. Bottom line is do you have what it takes to be a broker....whats that jfk quote...ask not what the country can do for you......etc etc

    good luck...your background is excellent!

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  119. Dear VP,

    I did BE CSE and have just completed my MBA in Shipping & Logistics frm INDIA & got selected as a tranee shipbroker in a company in INDIA itself. Although pay is too low but i said yes to the company by referring to ur blog, othr websites & to my faculties friends & with my knowledgs .
    suggest that what i have done is k or what should i do.....?
    also what are th career prospective in this field....?
    and if i m opting this as ma career then what and all should i do to enhance ma knowledgs & skills in this field....?
    what and all courses should i do....?

    Thanks

    Regards,
    Lucky

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  120. Dear VP,

    I did BE CSE and have just completed my MBA in Shipping & Logistics frm INDIA & got selected as a tranee shipbroker in a company in INDIA itself. Although pay is too low but i said yes to the company by referring to ur blog, othr websites & to my faculties friends & with my knowledgs .
    suggest that what i have done is k or what should i do.....?
    also what are th career prospective in this field....?
    and if i m opting this as ma career then what and all should i do to enhance ma knowledgs & skills in this field....?
    what and all courses should i do....?

    Thanks

    Regards,
    Lucky

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  121. Dear VS,

    I graduated from Edinburgh University in June 2012 and have one month's experience with an Edinburgh freight forwarding firm as a freight agent, but would like to pursue a career as a shipbroker. As I'm only 22 and fortunately have no student debt to pay off, I luckily have the world at my feet now that I look for graduate employment. With this in mind, where in the world would you recommend I try to gain experience as a shipbroker? /which market do you envisage growth in the coming years within the industry? Or would you recommend I try to gain more experience in the UK first before considering flying the nest.

    Kind regards,

    Benjamin

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  122. Dear Virtual Shipbroker,

    I am from greece and I am working as 2nd officer in a greek containership company.My experience is aprox 2 years.I am planning to do a MSc in Shipping trade and finace an Cass business Schooland then to apply for an Intership position as trainee shipbroker.My question is what if i don't like to come back again to Greece and work for a Shipbroking Company?Do I have any posibility to work anywhere else?What is your opinion about that?
    Thank you in advance for your time and your answer.

    Kind regards,

    Pascahlis

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  123. Hello Pascahils - yes you can work in other countries...Greeks are evrywhere!

    Hello Benjamin - sorry for late reply. 22 is a great age to start and the answer to your question is to begin where ever an opportunity arises...

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  124. Hi I am 22 years old and have just finished at bangor university were I did a degree in business. I have wanted to be a ship broker for 3 years now and am wondering if you could point me in the right direction.

    Thank you

    David Fee

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  125. Dear Virtual Shipbroker,

    I have recently completed my Masters in International Shipping from the University of Plymouth. I am determined to work for a shipbroking firm as that is the career I envisage myself working in. However I just received my dissertation grade today and I finished with 59%, so a PASS. I feel shattered because I worked so hard yet I didn't get the result I had hoped for. Does this hinder my chances of getting into shipbroking? Any advice would be welcomed. Thank you.

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  126. To: Anonymous

    Your dissertation has nothing to do whether you will or will not be hired. Broking is your personality, your style. The best brokers I know did not have any education. This is people's business not a rocket science.

    Finally, a piece of advice – think twice before committing yourself. Broking is a lifestyle not just a job. This is not suited for everyone.

    Good luck
    Regards
    Alex

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  127. Hi VS
    Iam a B.Tech Marine Engineering graduate also completed Master degree from World Maritime University in Shipping & Finance.I dropped my sailing career at the very beginning to do something different..after completing the Master degree i regret for what i did(i would have cleared class 4 exams instead doing this Masters..these degrees sucks)...which career is better..a sailor or a ship broker..as a mariner i can forsee wat i will be after certain years..but a ship broker can either be sucessfull or a failure......now iam at middle of sea where i can see two islands..shipbroker island and Sailor island...Sailor Island is near to me...Please direct me in which direction should i swim
    Hoping for your kind reply
    With Best Regards,
    Vishnu Rajendran

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  128. Hi VS

    Following redundancy after 9 years with the same financial services company as their senior sales advisor, and having taken some time out, I decided to re-investigate my interest in the shipbroking sector, and have recently sat the ICS Advanced Diploma (consisting of the benchmark Shipping Business and Sale & Purchase papers). I really feel that my years of front office financial services relationship management and advisory sales experience (to a clientele of senior company management, entrepreneurs, HNW individuals, professional intermediaries etc.) together with my new academic knowledge of the shipping industry and shipbroking profession could be an asset to a firm. I am 40 years old and looking for a way in. I would be grateful if you could offer an honest opinion as to my chances or any advice.

    Many thanks

    AP

    p.s. I have just bought your Inside Shipbroking...its a good read!

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  129. Hi VS

    I am 37 years old and graduated from Design and Construction of Naval Architecture and Ocean Structure(China) in 1999. But I did not work at any companys related my subject and heard about the shipbroker recently.

    I am very interesed at this industry.can you give me some advices how do I start it? Do you know any training courses in Singapore?

    Thanks a lot and best regards

    Simon

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  130. Big thread hey!

    Lots of info for all to enjoy...

    Ive enjoyed going back over the last 5 years re reading all the comments...

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  131. Dear VS

    I am a dry cargo broker just under a year now, i've been in non bulk sector before, all together 3 years in shipping sector in London. In this current tight dry bulk market i feel a lot of frustration especially being new broker. I start to doubt whether I shall continue investing myself into dry and expect it to get little busier in the next 5 years, or whilst not too late switch into to other chartering/broking sector (tankers/gas).
    Thoughts of changing location and abandoning Europe is also keep popping up in my mind. Dubai, Feast seem to be more perspective locations for young motivated guys (and girls) with solid shipping base.

    What do you think? Apprec for your tips and comments in my not so easy daily "plan B" thinking.

    Brgds

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  132. Good questions - I started a new thread to answer.

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  133. Hi VS,

    I am an International Business Management graduate working as an Account Manager for a software company. However I feel that shipping is more close to expectations of business and currently trying to explore opportunities in this industry.

    I am currently purusing PQE from ICS. Do you have any suggestions for me. I have read your blog and see that you constantly install hope. Thanks for this and your suggestion.

    Regards
    Mahesh

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  134. HI VS

    I am a newly qualified officer of the watch with a British issued COC

    In the next year or so I plan to do a trip as a junior officer and in my leave learn the commercial side of the business and hopefully do some post fixture work, after this I want to brake into brokage.

    How employable would I be seen to be .. yes I don't have a economic/business degree from a top university but I do have solid industry experience.

    Alot of guys who go for trainee broker jobs probably haven't even seen a commercial ship yet alone know that a 38000 dwt Handymax bulker can't actually carry 38000 tonnes of cargo.

    Regards

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  135. Good day VS

    I am a 39 yr old Singaporean male. I was a sea-going marine engineer for 13 yrs and a Tech Supt for 4 yrs.

    In the past 2 yrs, I have done 2 diplomas in shipping ànd marketing.

    What are my chances of switching into ship brokerage / trading operators?

    I do not have a degree, but I do have solid industry experience.

    Many Thanks
    Carl

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  136. Dear VS,

    Thank you for a great resource!

    I just realized i published my original question, below, in the wrong thread.

    In any event, I would be very grateful for any advice. I'm in my mid 40s and have a successful career as a lawyer in a common law jurisdiction. However, I want a change of scenery and the "cut and thrust" of ship broking appeals to me. I know that I am a lot older than most people entering the industry, but I am willing to start the ICS course to get some technical knowledge. I speak conversational Russian, and I am prepared to work for three months for free to get experience. Am I wasting my time, or do you think I will be given a chance? Do you know of anyone entering the game late in life?

    I would really appreciate any input.

    Many thanks!

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  137. hi, I have questions related to shipbroker and chartering?
    1. what is ship brokering and chartering?
    2. I am from India 30years old and I have done diploma in computer science and I don't have any job since last 5 years, so I want to change my career, is it possible if I do any short term course on ship brokering and chartering and I can get a job in India?
    3. I came to know about ship brokering and chartering recently cause of an institute is setting up in my home town. I had counselling with them and they told they are opening this course Diploma in Ship brokering and Chartering.
    4. they told me that this industry is not been known to common people in India and its vast industry with good salaries. They are marketing about this industry and have provided with above course for 1year, in which 6 months will be introduction to industry and full theory knowledge will be provided, and other 6 months they will be teaching practical on field as well as they will be taking work from us and also they will give us stipend around 8,000 to 10,000rupees.
    After that their will be exams and first 10 students will be placed in their own company which they are simultaneously going to form here.
    5. also they told me starting salry will be 40,000rupees and on deal that commission will be given.

    6. My question is that if i do this diploma in ship brokering and chartering will it be good for me or no. And what they have told is genuine or fake since u have the knowledge about this, plz reply in this blog. and should i do this course or not plz advice me cause i m getting frustrated about my self as i m not having any career.

    and last thing and important thing is they are charging 3 lakhs Rupees for this 1 year diploma course.

    is it worth that money. 3 lakhs fees?

    for some of your information i had joined B.E in cs after my diploma in cs last 5 years back but i left it cause my weak point is theory. and also the 3 year B.E in cs fees was 1,50,000 rupees,(1 lakh 50 thousand rupees).

    but for diploma in ship brokering and chartering they are charging 3lakhs fees.

    is it worth for me doing this as they said its all on pratical work.

    plz reply as soon as possible

    thanking you for creating this blog and sharing your experience and and knowledge and advising to people like me.

    thanks once again

    regards

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  138. Hey rhn,
    they are many such institutes in India, as many of us are in desperate need of job but to solve one you should not dig another hole...i hope u get it. I have been in sea and more than money i enjoy the mediocrity in land, do some introspection and get a job that matches your skills.

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