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Wednesday, June 9, 2010

Charterparty Question - good one too...

qte

hello vs

how do charter parties are formed if no one knows the clauses or understands just the basic ones.
where does one draw clauses from to form 35 pages?
Is shipbrokers' knowledge limited to specific charterparties according to the owners that trade with them?

thanks

Unqte
 
Many thanks for the question. What you are alluding too are the 'rider clauses' which are the additional clauses that can add another 20 to 50 pages to a charterparty..
 
How are these formed? Good question. Truth is that over the years various rider clauses do the rounds, so to speak, and then end up as standard type clauses in various types of charterparties.
 
You will find that many of the clauses form organically. BHP for example may have (20 years ago) insisted on a specific laytime clause. Slowly this clause gets accepted by shipowners and then other 'charterers' hear about the clause and decide they also like it and then incorporate same into their charterparties.
 
Same goes for shipowners. Many moons ago, for example, shipowners and their lawyers came up with various rider clauses they wanted to be part of any charterparty they agree too. During the course of negotiations these charterparties would be discussed and agreed and disagreed too. Eventually they find their way into standard type charterparties and eventually anyone and everyone agrees to them.
 
The shipowners have help too. For nice shipowner friendly rider clauses go to the Bimco website. These guys produce a number of shipowner friendly clauses covering every rider clause imagineable.

(In truth the Bimco sanctioned cps are well balanced these days because most shipowners are also charterers depending on the day)
 
Heres another thing that many people dont realise. Charterparty clauses are highly negotiable. Some people are experts at these clauses. Being a Charterparty guru can save you and make you millions of dollars.
 
In a high market (low supply and high demand for ships) - shipowners can push through just about any clause they like.
 
But when the market drops look for the charterers to push through clauses that no shipowner of right mind would ever agree too...
 
So we end up having 'shipowner friendly charterparties" and "charterer friendly charterparties"...the trick is to spot the difference.
 
If you need help on a charterparty drop me a line - maybe we can work something out. I have put together a number of charterparties over the years skewed towards both shipowners and charterers. Im happy to help out ........................for a fee! Very underrated thing is getting your cp right! Could save you (or make you) millions

Cheers
VS

4 comments:

  1. thanks so much vs and some day i might take you up on that offer of yours

    someone can only email you if they're using outlook or whatever standard mail program they have from their computer but everyone is using msn or yahoo-gmail so it's very discouraging for someone to email you privately maybe you should post your email at your profile page
    make a new account cause most probably you will get spam too

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  2. I am confused about your email comments....

    My email is in my profile page...virtualshipbroker@yahoo.com

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  3. hi
    vs i'm sorry
    i hadn't seen your new page which you have already posted your email address.

    i was trying to contact you through here http://www.blogger.com/profile/13194680475223774516

    where as i should have tried through here

    http://shipbrokerconsultants.blogspot.com/

    nice page good proposition

    but i was just trying don't have anything to tell you personally at least for now

    other than keep up the good posting

    cheers

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