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Tuesday, August 25, 2009

Address commissions - what are they?

Have been asked a great question regarding the make up of commissions. More specifically the difference between a shipbrokers commissions and a thing called "address commissions".

Here is the scoop.

- In most shipping transactions there are two types of commissions that are paid.
- Remember that in 99 percent of occassions it is the shipowner who pays the commissions.
- A standard 1.25 percent is paid to the broker for the service provided
- But the shipowner is also asked to pay something called an "address commission"

- An address commission is anywhere bewteen 1.25 and 5 percent, charged by the charterer and payable by the shipowner.

For example

Charterer A has 50,000 tonne to be shipped. When he sends this requirement to a broker he states at the bottom of the cargo order that an address commission of 2.5 percent is to be included in the shipowners calculation.

The broker then adds his 1.25 percent and by the time the order reaches the shiponwer there is a total commission value of 3.75 percent payable by the shipowner to the broker and the charterer.

This now becomes a fairly large cost for the shipowner and the shipowner must now allow for this cost when calculating the required freight rate. After 20 minutes of analysis the shipowner can see that without any commissions this biusiness is worth to him approx USD 50.00 per metric tonne to carry. But with 3.75 percent commissions payable he must now add a further USD 2.00 per metric tonne to cover this cost. So he offers USD 52.00.

HANG ON! I hear you say. Why would a charterer ask for an address commission when all he is doing is increasing the cost to the shipowner and therefore making his freight more expensive?

Good question. The more commission he charges the higher the freight bill. But the main reason is this. ACCOUNTING! Many charterers have large shipping departments that cost money to run. They need a mechanism whereby they can direct moneys toward the running of this department taking into account accounting principals and tax laws.

The bigger the inhouse shipping dpearment the bigger the cost and this may mean the bigger the address commission.

This the main reason for address commission - but the truth is that shrewd charterers also use address commissions in their trading strategy. That is a whole new story!

Anyway i hope this helps explain one of the many mysteries of the bulk freight market!

Any questions just drop me a line

Yours
VS

9 comments:

  1. Hi~~ virtual shipbroker.
    my name is David Kim.

    you written like this as follow,
    A standard 1.25 percent is paid to the broker for the service provided

    why is standard brokerage 1.25% ?
    do you know origin or reason 1.25% ?
    pls explain me. it's ok by e-mail.
    my e-mail address hykim09@gmail.com

    thanks a lot

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  2. Well explained. But kindly tell me how is the brokerage and address commission is divisible when there is a chain of brokers. Viz. There is one broker who represents the owner and there is another who contacts the freight broker. How would be the commission pattern between Owner's broker, shipper's broker and frt broker?

    Kindly copy answer to my email shekhar.pathare@gmail.com

    Tks

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  3. Is address commission is payable on demurrage also?

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  4. The Virtual ShipbrokerAugust 2, 2011 at 11:38 PM

    It depends

    I always make sure i put

    "commission payable on all freight, deadfreight and demurrage".

    If you don't then shipowners generally refuse to pay.

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  5. hi
    read this post only today
    a query on the brokers fee : the 1.25 % paid by owners would be to owners broker only or to charterers broker too. plus he pays address commission
    is it correct to say that charterers pay a fee to their representing brokers- again 1.25%
    this query admittedly is basic but please clarify.
    is it also true that in the current markets , the 1.25 %has whitted down to around 1% and address comm may be lower too . thanks

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  6. The shipowner pays all commissions to all the brokers...even if there is more than one.

    1.25 pct remains the standard brokerage

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  7. Hi VS,

    I am Wilson and I am new in shipbroking. Thus would like to seek you advise what does the owner means when they indicate "Net Commission" as below...

    ###quote###
    US$ 120.- w/m lthh for 10,000mts of pipes basis 1 load / 3 disch WC USA

    Owners BN
    Net commission
    Sub final p/l and stowage
    End
    ###unquote###

    Kindly copy answer to my email chartering108@gmail.com

    Tks
    Wilson

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  8. Hi

    Not sure - its a bit ambigous - I assume they mean - inclusive of the commissions stated in the order. Check with them

    Cheers
    VS

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  9. Hello, I would also be interested in the answer of if you know the origin of 1.25% commission. How did they arrive there?

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