tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1301590790606020.post7180276696220960382..comments2024-02-23T00:46:53.433-08:00Comments on The Virtual Shipbroker: Another legal questionThe Virtual Shipbrokerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13194680475223774516noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1301590790606020.post-13638267979321426972010-01-22T00:58:32.113-08:002010-01-22T00:58:32.113-08:00There is a different approach when acts of god int...There is a different approach when acts of god interfere. Let's say owners' are not in position to substitute the vessel with any sisters, nor they would like as the market hit rock bottom.<br />Owners' P&I Club can therefore solve this problem very easily. Owners' would like to perform the job but for reasons absolutely beyond his control, he is constraint.<br /><br />In manyjebuskhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17124716661601667908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1301590790606020.post-82722605354090914512009-12-18T08:34:02.247-08:002009-12-18T08:34:02.247-08:00thanks for paying Gary!
Anyone else?thanks for paying Gary!<br /><br />Anyone else?The Virtual Shipbrokerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13194680475223774516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1301590790606020.post-48658139552301417932009-12-18T06:34:14.914-08:002009-12-18T06:34:14.914-08:00Hmmm I'm beginning to wonder what you have bee...Hmmm I'm beginning to wonder what you have been doing the past 30 years :-):-)<br /><br />As for A TBN, well I'd stick my neck out and say Owners would have to provide a suitable similair substitute.<br /><br />Nice weekend to all.Garynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1301590790606020.post-78332488524097459612009-12-18T03:13:51.472-08:002009-12-18T03:13:51.472-08:00awesome
what about a tbn contract whereby a ship...awesome <br /><br />what about a tbn contract whereby a ship has just been nominated?The Virtual Shipbrokerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13194680475223774516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1301590790606020.post-7073413333239198342009-12-18T02:51:12.231-08:002009-12-18T02:51:12.231-08:00No. I'd reckon that a liberty to substitute ...No. I'd reckon that a liberty to substitute does not impose an obligation. Of course Owners will look at the frt market trend whether it is in their interest to substitute. <br /><br />A TBN contract would be a different kettle of fish.Garynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1301590790606020.post-73204262555895173762009-12-18T02:14:32.993-08:002009-12-18T02:14:32.993-08:00Nice answer Gary.
Lets assume the ship is totall...Nice answer Gary. <br /><br />Lets assume the ship is totally screwed and there is no way she can perform.<br /><br />Next question<br /><br />What if the charterers fixed MV Scorpio or SUB -does this change your answer?The Virtual Shipbrokerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13194680475223774516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1301590790606020.post-78095146566616962022009-12-18T02:07:23.759-08:002009-12-18T02:07:23.759-08:00No Owners would not have to substitute her as they...No Owners would not have to substitute her as they fixed a named ship. Doubt there would be any liability for damages unless of course Owners hid the accident when fixing. Then they would be in big trouble.<br /><br />The Chrs will be in the driving seat as she will miss her laycan. Unless the mrkt moved up they can take their time and choose an alternative **cough cheaper tnge. Owners of course Garynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1301590790606020.post-70106646612570026052009-12-18T01:29:33.689-08:002009-12-18T01:29:33.689-08:00Hi
I would think that if a contract is formed the...Hi<br /><br />I would think that if a contract is formed then its enforceable!<br /><br />Good try - anyone else.The Virtual Shipbrokerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13194680475223774516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1301590790606020.post-20875262180607572662009-12-18T01:17:37.799-08:002009-12-18T01:17:37.799-08:00In this case, the contract is already formed betwe...In this case, the contract is already formed between owner and charterer, but not enforce yet.<br />Charterer and owner can either terminate and cancel this contract and therefore owner do not need to send another ship to charterer. However, whether any liabilities / claims incur depend on the terms and conditions of the charterparty.<br /><br />MilanoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1301590790606020.post-32364740314827199992009-12-18T00:00:56.582-08:002009-12-18T00:00:56.582-08:00hello anon
nice try but not quite!
anyone else....hello anon <br /><br />nice try but not quite!<br /><br />anyone else....?The Virtual Shipbrokerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13194680475223774516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1301590790606020.post-73482642538272798032009-12-17T23:33:59.258-08:002009-12-17T23:33:59.258-08:00If a ship is needed to carry cargo , many ships ar...If a ship is needed to carry cargo , many ships are placed on subjects , however when a voyage charter party is "FIXED" , the details include the ship involved , charterers do not just hire any ship , a ship is chosen firstly for its specifications and suitability/specifications to carry the cargo , its track record/performance , its certification and validity , its previous port Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com